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CCPP Framework Meeting Minutes 2022 08 30

Michael Kavulich edited this page Aug 30, 2022 · 5 revisions

Agenda


GitHub issues

  • None new, see "Other business" discussion

Other business

Discussion notes

  • Discussed issues above, assigned some work
  • Hopefully not too much bad news about leadership leaving
  • SIMA review: Can we contribute to cost estimates?
    • Questions:
      • How much for implementation?
      • How much saved by implementation?
        • Estimated ~1 FTE constant
    • We need funding/hours to do the work needed to come up with these estimates
      • Need to break down into parts:
        • Physics conversion
        • Full system testing/implementation
      • Ligia believes it's possible to make a rough estimate
        • Obviously huge uncertainties based on who exactly has time/resources to undertake this effort
        • Estimates based on initial UFS effort may be biased high, since we now have experience and learned lessons
        • Schemes already in the model are (maybe?) easier than brand new schemes
      • Dustin used 0.5 FTE for 2 years for putting RRTMGP into the CCPP, but this funding also covered more than just that effort
    • Question from Hanli (relayed by Lulin) For WACCM-X, the thermosphere physics and ionospheric chemistry are mostly column based, and can be organized in a CCPP Suite Groups. However, the new ionospheric electrodynamics and ionospheric transport are solved along geomagnetic field lines, which cut through the geographic columns. Is there a way to organize them in geomagnetic field line “columns”? If not, can the host model (CESM/WACCM-X) be partially CCPP compliant and skip over the ionosphere?
      • Need more discussion to decide whether it makes sense to adapt into CCPP compliance
  • Will meet again in 2 weeks
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