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Information missing about organizations' participation in certificate checking for booking #2218

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MikeMcC399 opened this issue Dec 20, 2021 · 25 comments

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MikeMcC399 commented Dec 20, 2021

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The announcement for CWA 2.15 includes extensive information about "certificate checks when booking tickets".

There is no reference given for organizations who would like to take part in this service.

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  1. Publish information for organizations who want to take part in the certificate checking process, so that they know what they should do.

  2. For end-users give some indication if this service is already live or just in preparation. Which organizations are already providing this service? Edit: This is done through the update to https://www.coronawarn.app/en/blog/2021-12-20-cwa-2-15/ on January 20, 2022, which says: "In Germany, no provider of an online verification service has been approved yet."


Internal Tracking ID: EXPOSUREAPP-11110

@MikeMcC399 MikeMcC399 added the bug Something isn't working label Dec 20, 2021
@MikeMcC399 MikeMcC399 changed the title Information missing about organizations participation in certificate checking for booking Information missing about organizations' participation in certificate checking for booking Dec 20, 2021
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dsarkar commented Dec 20, 2021

@MikeMcC399 Currently the project partners are in contact with providers in order to integrate them in the infrastructure of the ticketing/validation service.

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Ein-Tim commented Dec 20, 2021

FYI: https://www.t-systems.com/de/en/newsroom/news/corona-validation-service-475486 (not sure whether this is only an announcement or at the same time also an information how to get in touch with them (at the bottom of the page))

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The question has also been raised now in corona-warn-app/cwa-documentation#781.

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dsarkar commented Dec 22, 2021

@MikeMcC399 Thanks for raising this issue.
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MikeMcC399 commented Dec 27, 2021

https://www.coronawarn.app/en/faq/#val_service_basics says:

"Is there an approval process for DCC validation service providers?

Interested companies can go through a test procedure at the BMG. The procedure is open to all providers."

This is part of the same issue that there are no documented concrete points of contact (e.g. website / e-mail) to start the process of becoming an accredited validation service provider.

Also mentioned in #2253.

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I'm going to clarify the contact details for participation and integration of the validation service. The results will then be added to the existing communication in FAQ and/or blog.

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@GisoSchroederSAP

Please consider creating a new page like https://www.coronawarn.app/en/rat-partner/ for "Become a rapid test partner!" either located on https://www.coronawarn.app or somewhere else, for organisations wishing to offer a validation service (like T-Systems today) or organisations which want to take part in the certificate checking process.

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That's exactly my intention, as we already mentioned this request in our daily sync meeting swith T-Systems. So, they should be prepared, especially as I can name at least three interested integration partners already.

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First response: We now have at least an official email recipient, that is available to gather the enquiries for the validation service:
DCC-validation@t-systems.com

I still asked for a webpage with some more explanation about the process and available interfaces. Let's see...

Happy 2022 to you all!

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There is also some information on the webpage https://landing.ticket.io/dein-ticketing/covid-validation about integration with T-Systems and CWA.

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Ein-Tim commented Dec 30, 2021

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Happy 2022 to you all!

Thanks, the same back to you & "Guten Rutsch!" 😉

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The second suggestion in this issue

"For end-users give some indication if this service is already live or just in preparation. Which organizations are already providing this service?"

has been implemented. https://www.coronawarn.app/en/blog/2021-12-20-cwa-2-15/ has been amended:

"Important update from January 10, 2022: The Europe-wide requirements for online verification services have already been in place since October 2021. In Germany, no provider of an online verification service has been approved yet. Tests are currently being carried out, the results of which are being awaited for the time being. Online verification services will not be available in practice until these tests have been evaluated and the Federal Commissioner for Data Protection and Freedom of Information (BfDI) has provided advice. With version 2.15, however, the CWA is ready to support corresponding verification services as soon as providers of such a service are approved."

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@GisoSchroederSAP

You wrote:

First response: We now have at least an official email recipient, that is available to gather the enquiries for the validation service:
DCC-validation@t-systems.com

  • If this is official, then why is the PR FAQ DCC Email #2266 to publish the e-mail address on hold?

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@GisoSchroederSAP

It seems there has been no update on the domain of the validation service since Jan 2022. Has this functionality now been put on ice? It would be good to get a new status.

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In fact, last week I asked who is offering this service and it turns out: All the ice is melted. Strictly speaking, there is no provider that still offers such a validation service anymore.

This status given, I don't expect any update on the topic anymore, at least not before the pandemic situation will be re-evaluated maybe in late summer or fall this year.

Does this answer your quesion(s) around the validation feature?

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@GisoSchroederSAP

Thank you for the update. If there will be no new blog post on this subject in the next weeks and months, then perhaps the text in the FAQs should be updated accordingly?

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Ein-Tim commented Apr 11, 2022

@GisoSchroederSAP Maybe you could provide a new update which I could add to #2734?

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Ein-Tim commented Apr 12, 2022

PR #2734 has been merged. Can this issue be closed?

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The currently published information is as follows:


https://www.coronawarn.app/en/blog/2021-12-20-cwa-2-15/ "Corona-Warn-App simplifies certificate checks when booking tickets"

"Important update from January 10, 2022: The Europe-wide requirements for online verification services have already been in place since October 2021. In Germany, no provider of an online verification service has been approved yet. Tests are currently being carried out, the results of which are being awaited for the time being. Online verification services will not be available in practice until these tests have been evaluated and the Federal Commissioner for Data Protection and Freedom of Information (BfDI) has provided advice. With version 2.15, however, the CWA is ready to support corresponding verification services as soon as providers of such a service are approved."


https://www.coronawarn.app/en/faq/results/#val_service_basics

"UPDATE April 12, 2022
The Europe-wide requirements for online verification services have already been in place since October 2021. In Germany, no provider of an online verification service has been approved. With version 2.15, however, the CWA is ready to support corresponding verification services."


If an organization is interested in becoming part of an online verification service, there is no information that the project is on hold. This would need to be added explicitly to the published information, for instance as a statement in https://www.coronawarn.app/en/faq/results/#val_service_basics, before this issue is resolved.

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Ein-Tim commented Apr 12, 2022

@GisoSchroederSAP What do you think? Adapt the update to include note that this project is on hold? Should this also be added to the FAQ?

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Ein-Tim commented Apr 15, 2022

@MikeMcC399 I think this issue is obsolete now and can be closed, or?

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I think this issue is obsolete now and can be closed, or?

You say that you think the issue is obsolete, although you did not give your reason. Perhaps you think that the statement from @GisoSchroederSAP in #2218 (comment) "I don't expect any update on the topic anymore, at least not before the pandemic situation will be re-evaluated maybe in late summer or fall this year." makes it obsolete?

This issue was always about the public information available on https://www.coronawarn.app/ not just about the information that has been written in GitHub.

As I wrote in #2218 (comment) "If an organization is interested in becoming part of an online verification service, there is no information that the project is on hold. This would need to be added explicitly to the published information, for instance as a statement in https://www.coronawarn.app/en/faq/results/#val_service_basics, before this issue is resolved."

I am however going to close this issue unresolved now as it seems there will not be any changed communication coming from the Open Source Team in the near future.

Instead I defer to the open issue corona-warn-app/cwa-documentation#781 "How to implement the new check-in function for booking tickets" where @derweili asked how to participate. This is a better place to follow the state of the verification service project as far as IT implementers are concerned.

If the verification service project is revived due to a new need to check status as part of a ticket-booking process, then organizational participants would need advanced notice and preparation time. Probably nobody is in a position at the moment to predict if this is likely to happen later this year. This situation should be handled separately in any case.

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Ein-Tim commented Apr 17, 2022

@MikeMcC399

You say that you think the issue is obsolete, although you did not give your reason.

As you may have noticed, I just crawled trough all issues in this repo, asking for an update, same goes for this one.

Regarding #2218 (comment) the real question to be asked is:
If there is an organization interested in providing a validation service, would this organization get approved? Or would all requests to provide a validation service be rejected.
It's probably the best to discuss this question in corona-warn-app/cwa-documentation#781.

EDIT: I changed my mind, corona-warn-app/cwa-documentation#781 is obsolete and should be closed, a new issue which asks whether a organization willing to provide a validation service would be approved at this time should be opened.

I will go ahead and open such an issue in the next days.

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Ein-Tim commented Apr 17, 2022

@MikeMcC399 I opened corona-warn-app/cwa-documentation#885. Please let me know your thoughts, maybe you also disagree with me here. Anyways, enjoy Sunday!

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I opened corona-warn-app/cwa-documentation#885. Please let me know your thoughts, maybe you also disagree with me here.

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