Remove FIRE_CONTAINER flag from 'f_oven'

[Ezrashaw]

Summary

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Purpose of change

Fixes #56343
Removes FIRE_CONTAINER flag from 'f_oven' due to the fact that electric ovens can't realistically contain fire.

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Testing

It builds and runs :P

Additional context

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[John-Candlebury]

I feel like such a far reaching balance adjustment might require some stronger justification on the "realistically cant contain a fire" part?

[Inglonias]

If you do this, you also need to remove the associated tip from the main menu. We don't want to encourage dangerous behavior like that for new players.

[Inglonias]

I feel like such a far reaching balance adjustment might require some stronger justification on the "realistically cant contain a fire" part?

Given that most manufacturers suggest avoiding fire in your oven if at all possible, I'm not sure how safe this is realistically.

From a gameplay balance perspective, this is not that big a problem. The biggest problem we'd encounter is older players not realizing this change happened and accidentally setting their house on fire. You can take an oven apart and make a brazier to safely contain fire with a hammer and Fabrication 1, which can be trained trivially on day 1.

[batekulve]

While it's certainly not recommended, I don't see why a fire wouldn't be contained. It's just a metal box with insulation already installed around it.

[Maleclypse]

It seems likely that ovens contain when food catches on fire but may struggle to contain an intentional fire. Google search attached.

[Ezrashaw]

If you do this, you also need to remove the associated tip from the main menu. We don't want to encourage dangerous behavior like that for new players.

Done! Thanks for that.

Setting logs on fire in an oven would not only damage the electric heating elements and render it unusable, but it would also risk burning through the thin sheet metal bottom of the oven.

From #56343, also agrees with the "can't contain intentional fire" rationale. Maybe some other changes are also necessary to make this work realistically but the concept is correct.

[anothersimulacrum]

Some previous discussion about oven fires: #56807 (comment)

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[I-am-Erk]

While I want to see this change, I think it needs to be done in a more complex way, as discussed in the linked issue. I am closing this PR but that doesn't mean it's not wanted, if you would like to revive it you can either ask for this one to be reopened, or start a new one that addresses the concerns.