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Remove Fletching Proficiency from Crude Wooden Arrows and Crude Wooden Bolts #48910

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@mGuv mGuv commented May 17, 2021

Summary

Balance "Fix Crude Wooden Bolt and Crude Wooden Arrow recipe requiring Fletching Proficiency when they have no Fletching"

Purpose of change

Fixes #48909.

When Fletching was introduced to crafting Arrows, the author didn't want the basic ammunition recipe to be grindable for learning Fletching. So they massively reduced the learning rate to 0.1 which achieved their desired goal.

However, I don't think they thought it through fully as they have effectively killed the early game bow/arrow start. It is nearly impossible to actually craft any wooden arrows now without investing precious time/resources at the start of your game (and I mean A LOT of time/resource, grinding the craft for multiple non-stop in-game days netted me about 40 arrows and 2% Fletching skill, whilst burning through my entire wood supply).

Instead you have to level up other skills to then craft better arrows (so you can learn Fletching without the penalty) so you can then be skilled at making worse arrows.

On top of it all, the Crude Arrow/Bolt aren't even Fletched both in terms of flavour text and Recipe. I have a feeling "Fletching" was blanket added to all arrow/bolt types.

Describe the solution

Remove Fletching entirely from the Crude arrows. This allows them to still be craftable AND without them being cheesed to learn Fletching. The arrows themselves and the bows available at the same skill level aren't even that strong so I don't see this effecting balance - if anything it allows people to play their own way.

Describe alternatives you've considered

Adding another even more basic arrow, but that doesn't seem worth it due to how weak crude ammo is.

Adding some kind of material requirement and updating the description so this arrow actually has fletching. Whilst that would solve the flavour issue - it doesn't solve the weird balance issue around them being impossible to craft until you can craft better ammunition.

Adding a secondary craft for the Crude arrows that uses more time/wood but without Fletching. I didn't want to make a balance call like that but would be open to the suggestion. I was also unsure if you can have two different listings/recipes for the same output item (as opposed to just different materials in the same recipe).

Testing

Created a new character, gave myself the fab/survival skills to make arrows, harvested some branches and made some wooden arrows. I was actually able to successfully craft them without getting stuck in a failure/material loop and I didn't gain any progress towards Fletching, so I cannot cheese it to level up.

@Maleclypse Maleclypse added Crafting / Construction / Recipes Includes: Uncrafting / Disassembling Items: Ammo / Guns Ammunition for all kinds of weapons and these weapons themselves labels May 17, 2021
@mGuv mGuv changed the title Remove Fletching from Crude Wooden Arrows and Crude Wooden Bolts Remove Fletching Proficiency from Crude Wooden Arrows and Crude Wooden Bolts May 17, 2021
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yeah, the argument is that you can't learn fletching from a non-fletched arrow; I agree, that means they just shouldn't include fletching at all.

@I-am-Erk I-am-Erk merged commit 0c961b6 into CleverRaven:master May 18, 2021
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Crude Wooden Arrows/Bolts require Fletching Proficiency despite having no Fletching
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