Have an annoyances filter list enabled by default

[claell]

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Description

Since some sites show hints that I am using an Adblocker and asking me to disable it, I looked how to get rid of that. Apparently there are already filter lists for that available under the "annoyances" section. Did not know about that before. Since I like having nice default settings in an application, I was thinking about enabling one or more of those lists by default.

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[gorhill]

Declined -- too high likelihood of site breakage, in which case users end up blaming uBO rather than the filter list. See https://github.com/uBlock-LLC/uBlock/releases/tag/0.8.2.8:

"Fanboy's Social Blocking List" no longer selected by default for fresh installs

• It causes too many issues for users who are not accustomed to this filter list (#458, #451, #450, #428, stores' feedback, etc)
• More experienced users can always easily select it after a fresh install

[claell]

I was rather referring to the uBlock filters - Annoyances list, but that might behave the same. Is that actually blocking social media content as well? I was just looking for blocking hints that I am using an Adblocker.

Also from my POV, even just using an Adblocker can break sites and need adjustments of Filterlists, so there is not really a reason not to enable additional lists (should not to be filtering to broadly, though) by default imho.

[liamengland1]

The uBlock Annoyances list is not enabled by default because it blocks soft anti-adblock. Soft anti-adblock can be dismissed by clicking "No, thanks" or similar on a prompt asking to disable adblocker. It also does not come up every time one refreshes the page. uBlock Origin will only block hard anti-adblock on default settings - anti-adblock that cannot be dismissed.

[claell]

Really? Alright, seems somewhat understandable not to block too much away by default.

If hard anti-adblock should be blocked by default, I am ok with that. Is there a separate list for that or where does the information for that hard anti-adblocking come from? I have to (rather popular) sites which have hard anti-adblock warnings that are not blocked by default and required me to enable the uBlock Annoyances list. I'd like to report them to a default enabled list for hard anti-adblock blocking.

[liamengland1]

Also, if it's just a static image or paragraph asking to turn off adblock , it won't be addressed in uBlock Origin default filterlist. That would go in the annoyances list, even if it can't be dismissed- because it doesn't block access to the site, so not "hard" anti-adblock.

[liamengland1]

You can report anti-adblock or any other filter-related concern here: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uAssets

[claell]

Also, if it's just a static image or paragraph asking to turn off adblock , it won't be addressed in uBlock Origin default filterlist. That would go in the annoyances list, even if it can't be dismissed- because it doesn't block access to the site, so not "hard" anti-adblock.

Too bad. Then your definition above was a bit too vague. Seems like only complete access blocking is considered hard, everything else is considered soft.

Both are basically banners hinting that I use an Adblocker all the time.

Maybe introduce another category between hard and soft that also gets blocked by default.

[gorhill]

I have to (rather popular) sites which have hard anti-adblock warnings that are not blocked by default.

Just submit your specific filter issues to https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uAssets/issues, these sort of issues are usually quickly fixed.

As said, I declined to add an annoyance lists by default, so it's best to report specific anti-content blocker issues to uAssets.

[claell]

Hm, problem is that those are not anti-content. I can access the content, but they are still there as panel on the side for example.

Would that be in the scope of a normal list that is shipped by default?

As said, I declined to add an annoyance lists by default

I wrote a reply to that, basically I don't really understand why blocking things like banners that appear instead of ads is causing more problems than the actual ad blocking. However I am not really into this. This is just my impression.

[Yuki2718]

If you want more precise definition of soft- or hard- anti-adb here EasyList's, I believe uAssets' criteria is almost the same.
https://easylist.to/2013/05/10/anti-adblock-guide-for-site-admins.html

[claell]

Thanks. According to that criteria both sites actually are using "not allowed" stuff. I will create issues then!