#[derive] sometimes uses incorrect bounds (aka lack of "perfect derive")

[comex]

In the following code:

#[derive(Copy, Clone)]
struct Y<T>(&'static fn(T));

both derives expand to impls that require the corresponding trait to be implemented on the type parameter, e.g.:

#[automatically_derived]
impl<T: ::std::marker::Copy> ::std::marker::Copy for Y<T>
where
     T: ::std::marker::Copy
{}

However, this isn't actually necessary, as Y<T> will still be eligible for Copy regardless of whether T is.

This may be hard to fix, given the compilation phase at which #[derive] works...

[huonw]

This is a dupe of #7671 which I suspect may've been accidentally closed. (i.e. the patch that closed it was modified to no longer tackle it.)

[apasel422]

#19839 is relevant.

[eefriedman]

The bounds that #[derive] uses aren't conservative, they're just wrong. Whether a type parameter implements the derived trait is in theory unrelated to whether a given field implements that trait. The defaults just appear to work most of the time because in practice people use traits and field types where the approximation is reasonably accurate.

Unfortunately, the obvious fix (just bounding the field types) causes breakage:

#[derive(Clone)]
struct Item<A> { inner: A }
#[derive(Clone)]
pub struct IntoIter<A> { inner: Item<A> }
// The obvious bound is `Item<A> : Clone`, but we can't use that bound
// because `Item` is private.

And actually, in the general case there is no bound we can expose because it could involve a requirement that a parameter type implements a private trait.

We could in theory special-case certain types syntactically, but that only improves a few special cases like Clone of a reference.

It's possible that we could punt computing the bounds off to type-checking (add syntax like where each field : Clone), and come up with a type-sensitive heuristic; that's probably a lot of work, though. We could also extend the #[derive] syntax to allow the user to specify the correct bounds; easy to implement, but not very intuitive to use.

[Yoric]

In terms of syntax, it might perhaps be possible to generalize ? and let devs specify where T: ?Clone. Not sure how the compiler would interpret this post-derive, though.

[jorendorff]

GHC handles the case described in @eefriedman's comment:

module DeriveShowPrivate(IntoIter(IntoIter), f) where
data Item a = Item { itemInner :: a } deriving Show
data IntoIter a = IntoIter { inner :: Item a } deriving Show
f v = IntoIter {inner = Item {itemInner = v}}

It works:

import DeriveShowPrivate(f)
main = putStrLn (show (f 37))

The output is:

IntoIter {inner = Item {itemInner = 37}}

Maybe GHC "inlines" the private bounds until it obtains all-public bounds.

[Mark-Simulacrum]

There are also cases where derive is more conservative than it should be, see #32872 and #31518.

[bluss]

(Some contrivance ahead.)

If the bounds would be dropped when possible for existing code, the following would lose its good and intended meaning. The effect would be that RefMut<'a, T> were suddenly Copy, which is something that we imagine is not desirable, even a memory error.

#[derive(Copy, Clone)]
pub struct Ptr<Mark>(*mut u8, PhantomData<Mark>);

pub type Ref<'a, T: 'a> = Ptr<&'a T>;
pub type RefMut<'a, T: 'a> = Ptr<&'a mut T>;

[bluss]

With that I think that even if the bounds are plain wrong, they are part of the stock recipe that one can conjure with derive, it's “part of what you order” and we can't change that backwards incompatibly.

Derive can however grow bells and whistles, like the bound customization that rust-derivative and serde offer.

[comex]

If there's a good way to make derive do the right thing, the backwards incompatibility issue sounds like the kind of thing epochs could handle.

[la10736]

Just for reiterate it for the new comers rust-derivative can work around for this issue.

[teohhanhui]

@la10736:

Just for reiterate it for the new comers rust-derivative can work around for this issue.

mcarton/rust-derivative#117

[la10736]

Just for reiterate it for the new comers rust-derivative can work around for this issue.

Sorry rust-derivative is not still maintained. But it's a useful starting point of how to find replacement and how to work around it.

[dspyz-matician]

I use the derive-where crate which seems to have all the functionality I expect 99.9% of the time (the other 0.1% I write manual impls)