Support for harm elements to be displayed on top of chords

[sannedubois]

Would be nice if chord-symbols like Am7, Gmaj7 etc could be shown in the score.

[lpugin]

How would they be represented in MEI?

[pe-ro]

Textual chord labels can be represented using:

<harm>Am7</harm>
etc.

Since they're text, one may use <rend> for special formatting:

<harm>Am<rend rend="sup">7</rend></harm>

[sannedubois]

HEllo LAurent,

The problem is that I have to convert ten thousands of music-xml files,
using sibmei. So it would be nice that the chords could be converted the
same way as the lyrics. Graig told me about this possibility to add it
manually, but that's not doable for me, would take me years.

In music xml for Fm7 it would be:

F minor-seventh

But I'm not sure if the sollution lies in the mei-viewer or in sibmei.
Sibmei should be able to convert and the mei-viewer should be able to
interpret/read?

Kind regards,
Derk

2016-08-22 23:43 GMT+02:00 pe-ro notifications@github.com:

Textual chord labels can be represented using:

Am7
etc.

Since they're text, one may use for special formatting:

Am7

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[lpugin]

They are indeed two different issues. If the chord labels are displayed in Sibelius, then there is probably a way to have them converted to harm by Sibmei.

Another option is to add harm support to the musicxml importer in Verovio, but since this importer has much less features than Sibmei I assume it would create other issues for you to convert your data.

[lpugin]

Third option: have you tried the musicxml2mei stylesheet? https://github.com/music-encoding/encoding-tools

[ahankinson]

Can you send me one of your files with chord symbols? I can see about adding support for it in sibmei.

[sannedubois]

Thanks. I will contact Sibmei about it.

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They are indeed two different issues. If the chord labels are displayed in
Sibelius, then there is probably a way to have them converted to harm by
Sibmei.

Another option is to add harm support to the musicxml importer in
Verovio, but since this importer has much less features than Sibmei I
assume it would create other issues for you to convert your data.

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[sannedubois]

Hi Andrew,

That would be absolutely great!

I added an attachment with a music xml 3.0 file and a jpeg.

Kind regards,
Derk

2016-08-23 9:31 GMT+02:00 Andrew Hankinson notifications@github.com:

Can you send me one of your files with chord symbols? I can see about
adding support for it in sibmei.

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[ahankinson]

I think you have to send it to me directly; GitHub strips off attachments for e-mail replies.

[ahankinson]

I'll post this here since everyone seems to be watching it.

I've taken a stab at exporting <harm> from Sibelius. The test file is here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hcwguxvq16cc408/rigaudon.mei?dl=0

At the moment it's pretty bare-bones. I've placed the <harm> elements as a child of <measure> with @tstamp values for their placement. Let me know if anyone sees a problem with this.

[pe-ro]

@ahankinson : Looks great. Works better. :-)

[pe-ro]

@ahankinson : The labels in the test file are all "simple" ones: C, Dm, G/B, etc. Are you also able to deal with more complex labels; that is, those with augmented or diminished intervals?

[sannedubois]

Do you want a file with more complex chord-symbols? I can do that, no
problem.

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@ahankinson https://github.com/ahankinson : The labels in the test file
are all "simple" ones: C, Dm, G/B, etc. Are you also able to deal with more
complex labels; that is, those with augmented or diminished intervals?

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[ahankinson]

If you can do more complex chord symbols that would be great. I can see what it will do and adjust if necessary.

[sannedubois]

I've been thinking about it and it seems in fact to be very simple, because
as you can see via the link below, as long as one uses the 'long' chord
symbol, it always stays 'text'. So you wouldn't have to add anything at all.

If you want to convert all special signs which are used, it will become
more complex. Wikipedia shows very nicely that all chords have a long and
a short version.

Here it is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chord_names_and_symbols_(popular_music).

I'm a guitar player myself, but I wouldn't need the 'short' chord symbols,
with triangles, circles, +, - etc.

2016-08-23 18:06 GMT+02:00 Andrew Hankinson notifications@github.com:

If you can do more complex chord symbols that would be great. I can see
what it will do and adjust if necessary.

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