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MachinePool.Spec.ProviderIDList may not scale well #6387

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mboersma opened this issue Apr 6, 2022 · 11 comments
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MachinePool.Spec.ProviderIDList may not scale well #6387

mboersma opened this issue Apr 6, 2022 · 11 comments
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mboersma commented Apr 6, 2022

What steps did you take and what happened:

In working on the MachinePool Machines proposal in #6088, we collectively rejected the idea of attaching an infrastructureRefsList to each MachinePool spec.

While this would be convenient, the overall size of a MachinePool could become large if the number of replicas / instances grows. Its representation is transferred over the network and stored in etcd. It's easy to imagine a long list of structs causing performance problems with a thousand-node cluster, for example. (No, we didn't test this, we are simply anticipating a possible problem.)

Similarly, the existing ProviderIDList on a MachinePool spec could become large in a large cluster. See this comment.

We should investigate if a large ProviderIDList actually causes problems–maybe this could be tested with DockerMachinePool? It might also be possible to deprecate use of ProviderIDList after #6088 has been implemented.

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/milestone v1.2

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/priority important-longterm

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@mboersma @willie-yao @Jont828 to re-asses this issue and check if this is in the critical path for MP graduation

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We should investigate if a large ProviderIDList actually causes problems

I think this is still a potential issue, but we still need to do some testing to see if it's a real-world limitation. I am doing some large cluster testing currently in Azure and I'll try to orient that toward MachinePools and see if I can collect any useful data.

Thanks for the nudge @fabriziopandini!

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/triage accepted

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