Electric symbol requests

[fsmMLK]

Please leave a message below with electric symbols you would like to have.

Please, if possible, add a picture of the symbol to help my life. =)

• Add MOSFET 3-terminal (no bulk) symbols
• Add transformers
• Add variable components (R L C and sources)
• Add old current source symbol (two circles) (DIN?)
• Add insulated gate bipolar transistor (NPN and PNP)
• Add wavedrom time diagrams (in progress, see my wavedromScape repository
• RFIC symbols https://github.com/cfriesicke/inkscape-schematic-symbols
• add option to keep label text always horizontal
• add option to set no value to components, like resitors, capacitors, etc.
• change the thickness of the arrow in the transistors

[sriniv1422]

Can you please add these symbols to your circuit library...

[fsmMLK]

sriniv1422, symbols added.

[sriniv1422]

sriniv1422, symbols added.
The NMOS is fine , but the PMOS does not turn out to be correct. Actually i would like the style of the BJT to be maintained.
and want the NMOS and PMOS to look like them with the gate line at the centre

[sriniv1422]

if u can create a separate category called simple NMOS and Simple PMOS that will be even better

[fsmMLK]

I am following these two guidelines:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOSFET#Circuit_symbols
https://www.d.umn.edu/~sburns/EE2212Fall2012/FETSymbolsTextAndMore.pdf

What is exactly wrong with PMOS?

[sriniv1422]

fsmMLK

when i use the latest menu this is what i get close to what i want

notice that the gates of NMOS and PMOS and either low or high and not centered. This is a very old convetion and no one uses these nowadays.

Actually in the link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOSFET#Circuit_symbols
the NMOS , PMOS gates are at the centre and this is the most commonly used in diagrams , IEEE papers , thesis etc.

the BJT transistors you created are of excellent quality, they turn out to be really good in presentations and papers,
It would be great if you use the same line thickness and arrow size as you used in the BJT , with the gate centered for NMOS /PMOS.
Also , by defualt S is on TOP of Drain for PMOS. this is the most widely used convention. I can get to this by fliiping ,S and D , but the gate is lifted high.

I really appreciate if you can make them like BJT. it would look awesome

[fsmMLK]

How does it look now? (OBS: these changes were not commited to github yet)

I made the gate centered for all 3-terminal (no bulk). I am thinking of keeping S/D positions as they are now and the user check to swap S/D if they want. It will make my code cleaner and I don't think this will cause too much trouble to the user.

Now the linewidth I am not sure. I think uniform line width makes the symbol very 'fat', specially if we draw the body diode or the envelope (see below). Arrow size is slightly smaller in MOS otherwise the arrow would be too big for the tight space of the symbol ( I don't want to make the entire symbol larger just to acommodate the larger arrow.

[sriniv1422]

Looks good fsmmlk. please go ahead and make the code change to git hub. Lets keep the thick line . I like it that way better and is consistent . I wont be using the envolope option or body diode anyways. I like to keep it consistent with BJT and for that the thick is perfect. Iam ok with sawpping D/S to get to what I want for PMOS if that means less code change for you.
let me know when you are done uploading to github and I can try it out

[sriniv1422]

Looks good fsmmlk. please go ahead and make the code change to git hub. Lets keep the thick line . I like it that way better and is consistent . I wont be using the envolope option or body diode anyways. I like to keep it consistent with BJT and for that the thick is perfect. Iam ok with sawpping D/S to get to what I want for PMOS if that means less code change for you. let me know when you are done uploading to github and I can try it out

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On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 5:19 AM fsmMLK ***@***.***> wrote: How does it look now? I made the gate centered for all 3-terminal (no bulk). I am thinking of keeping S/D positions as they are now and the user check to swap S/D if they want. It will make my code cleaner and I don't think this will cause too much trouble to the user. [image: bitmap] <https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1710686/116809303-f49daf80-ab45-11eb-8f61-967ea20066a7.png> Now the linewidth I am not sure. I think uniform line width makes the symbol very 'fat', specially if we draw the body diode or the envelope (see below). Arrow size is slightly smaller in MOS otherwise the arrow would be too big for the tight space of the symbol ( I don't want to make the entire symbol larger just to acommodate the larger arrow. [image: g9370] <https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1710686/116809624-91ad1800-ab47-11eb-97ed-86bc9ee5d205.png> — You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#23 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AT3XLODAXXF6SZCLZWFQXZLTLURMRANCNFSM4ZQJ6DYA> .

[fsmMLK]

Uploaded a new version.

I made the FET use finer lines (0.7) when the envelop is present, otherwise thicker lines (1.0). If you want to have thick lines even with the envelopes, you can edit drawTransistors.py and change lineWidth to 1.0 (line ~176 )

[sriniv1422]

fsmmlk , Looks good. much appreciate the help... I wanted to ask you one more thing, is it possible to create timing diagrams with your package.? there is nothing out there that can create good timing diagrams except for wavedrom. we can talk further in case you are interested to implement it. that would be a game changer for the entire community. LEt me know.. with the mods you did , i can now draw good schematics. thanks a lot..

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On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 3:16 PM fsmMLK ***@***.***> wrote: Uploaded a new version. I made the FET use finer lines (0.7) when the envelop is present, otherwise thicker lines (1.0). If you want to have thick lines even with the envelopes, you can edit drawTransistors.py and change lineWidth to 1.0 (line ~176 ) — You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#23 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AT3XLOCQW6PXYRWPE6WWBG3TLWXIPANCNFSM4ZQJ6DYA> .

[fsmMLK]

Glad to hear that this extension is useful to people.

Now, on timing diagrams, yes, it is possible to create one. I have some questions on that:
1-) What is the problem with wavedrom?
2-) Why would someone need something different? Wavedrom looks quite nice and can generate pretty diagrams.

[sriniv1422]

fsmmlk well just wanting to have everything under inkscape. I agree with you that wavedrom can generate pretty diagrams.. If it is too much work, then no need.

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On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 4:09 PM fsmMLK ***@***.***> wrote: Glad to hear that this extension is useful to people. Now, on timing diagrams, yes, it is possible to create one. I have some questions on that: 1-) What is the problem with wavedrom? 2-) Why would someone need something different? Wavedrom looks quite nice and can generate pretty diagrams. — You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#23 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AT3XLOB7UWCHNGFQHYZCCGDTLW5O7ANCNFSM4ZQJ6DYA> .

[fsmMLK]

I found a python module for wavedrom (https://pypi.org/project/wavedrom/). This is the best scenario since there is no need to reinvent the wheel and would make easier to integrate with inkscape.

One idea could be to have an inkscape GUI/text interface for wavedrom embeded in inkscape.

[sriniv1422]

fsmmlk, that would be awesome . I did not know that there was a python module available for wavedrom. If you can integrate it in inkscape , that would be great. Many people will start using it as everything is now available under inkscape.. Can you do this ? If so , it will be of immense help.

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On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 4:24 PM fsmMLK ***@***.***> wrote: I found a python module for wavedrom (https://pypi.org/project/wavedrom/). This is the best scenario since there is no need to reinvent the wheel and would make easier to integrate with inkscape. One idea could be to have an inkscape GUI/text interface for wavedrom embeded in inkscape. — You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#23 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AT3XLODR3MGBDFERFWAMVMTTLW7KHANCNFSM4ZQJ6DYA> .

[fsmMLK]

I will take a look and create a small proof of concept example. I cannot promisse it will be quick.

I would like to hear from you later what a good interface and features would be nice to have (I don't have experiente with wavedrom)

Perhaps I will create a new private repository only for that and later integrate with circuitsymbols.

[sriniv1422]

fsmmlk Sure. In fact it need not be as complex as wavedrom. It is enough if we are able to create waveforms easily.. I can help you with features and interfaces . Let me know when you have some thing ready and i can take a look at it. Take your time, there is no hurry for this.

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On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 4:34 PM fsmMLK ***@***.***> wrote: I will take a look and create a small proof of concept example. I cannot promisse it will be quick. I would like to hear from you later what a good interface and features would be nice to have (I don't have experiente with wavedrom) Perhaps I will create a new private repository only for that and later integrate with circuitsymbols. — You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#23 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AT3XLOFFWITYIE67TOUFCT3TLXANHANCNFSM4ZQJ6DYA> .

[m3nsh]

Can you add RFIC symbols like these, please? https://github.com/cfriesicke/inkscape-schematic-symbols :)

[sriniv1422]

fsmMLK have you made any attempts at wavedrom? Srini

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On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 4:34 PM fsmMLK ***@***.***> wrote: I will take a look and create a small proof of concept example. I cannot promisse it will be quick. I would like to hear from you later what a good interface and features would be nice to have (I don't have experiente with wavedrom) Perhaps I will create a new private repository only for that and later integrate with circuitsymbols. — You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#23 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AT3XLOFFWITYIE67TOUFCT3TLXANHANCNFSM4ZQJ6DYA> .

[fsmMLK]

I have a basic version of a wavedrom extension. The extension requires the user to inform the full string that defines the diagram.

[jm-sanz]

Good morning, I wanted to thank you for your work, it is great. I was wondering if you could add some components to your list as this extension is very handy. I attach a .svg file I obtained from a YouTube video

I commonly use magnetics and, by now, this tool only includes one type of coil and it would be great to have more variety (same with other components as power sources as dependent power voltage sources):

On the other hand, would it be possible to add an extension for labeling BJT, FET and OpAmps as in the rest of devices?

Thank you for your awesome contribution.

ELECTRICAL SYMBOLS.zip

[fsmMLK]

Sure, I'm working on it now! =D

what do you mean by "same with other components as power sources as dependent power voltage sources"

[jm-sanz]

Awesome, thank you very much!.

Sorry I misswrote. I meant that some component, probably not based on official standards have different possibilites for being draw. Examples:

And would be great to have variable DC power supplies added as in previous comment.

Do you know some way of autojoin the component nets in inkspace?

Thank you :).

[fsmMLK]

what transformer features would you like to have in this extension? I don't work much with transformers and don't know the features that are worth implementing. At the moment I have implemented:

• iron, air and ferrite core
• option to add 1 central tap per winding
• phase shift indicator
• N1:N2 ration text

[jm-sanz]

Yes, that would be cool. Maybe some adjustable coils, coils with polarity or transformers with two or more secondary coils (with different cores).

Thank you!.

[fsmMLK]

This is what I have so far

[jm-sanz]

That looks great!, thank you.

[TomasVCZ]

I have a basic version of a wavedrom extension. The extension requires the user to inform the full string that defines the diagram.

Hello, do you have any update on wavedrom? Looks interesting and I would like to test it.

Thanks, Tomas

[sriniv1422]

I have a basic version of a wavedrom extension. The extension requires the user to inform the full string that defines the diagram.

Hello, do you have any update on wavedrom? Looks interesting and I would like to test it.

Thanks, Tomas

Iam also waiting for this . Icannot seem to find this on got hub.

fsmmlk

is this ready so we can try it .
Besides , i want to add some more features to able to add analog waveforms as well to this .
Let us know on how we can try this out on inkscape ?
Srini

[fsmMLK]

Transformers and variable components are now available! =D

[fsmMLK]

I have a basic version of a wavedrom extension. The extension requires the user to inform the full string that defines the diagram.

Hello, do you have any update on wavedrom? Looks interesting and I would like to test it.

Thanks, Tomas

I am returning to it now! =D

It is working as presented in the image. you have to type in the code and the extension creates the diagram. At the moment there is neither a GUI to help creating the text nor a way to verify the input string.

[fsmMLK]

current wavedrom UNSTABLE version can be found here. Please give me feedback.

https://github.com/fsmMLK/wavedromScape

[josejsarmento]

Would it be possible to choose the orientation of the component values? If I rotate 90º a resistor, I would like its name to stay horizontal, for example.

EDIT: Nevermind, I didn't know I could just double click the value and change there... That's what I get for using inkscape for the first time.

EDIT 2: Is it possible to change the thickness of the arrow in the transistors? I know I can change of the overall component, but I would like to have only the arrow a tad more pronounced.