[Question] Is there any reasoning behind using "display": "minimal-ui" in the manifest?

[aivarovskiy]

I feel like I've seen similar issues but couldn't find them so I opened a new one.

Problem
If I install PairDrop as a PWA, because of "display": "minimal-ui" in manifest.json it opens a new tab in Safari instead of opening its own window. Because of this behavior, there is no point in using PairDrop as a PWA (at least for me).

Possible solution
Other PWA apps I've installed use "display": "standalone" which solves this issue.

Question
Is there any particular reason for using "minimal-ui" instead of "standalone"?

Smartphone

• Device: iPhone X
• OS: IOS 16.1.2
• Browser: Safari

PairDrop/public/manifest.json

Line 31 in 3fa0873

"display": "minimal-ui",

[aivarovskiy]

Thanks for the explanation!

But that's unfortunate. As for me I would rather get rid of QR codes completely. It's not like it's much easier to use camera than just typing in 5-6 digits. I feel like it's even harder to be honest.

Still very nice piece of software. Keep it up!

[aivarovskiy]

There could also be the possibility to add a QR code scanner to PairDrop itself. This would make it possible to use QR codes from inside the PWA or an app (like Snapdrop & PairDrop for Android).

That occured to me too, but I thought it went against the idea of simplicity that you talk about in FAQ.

I’m not sure where to put a camera button though in order to not clutter the UI. Any thoughts?

To be honest I don't know. Here are my thoughts:

• Adding another icon at the top feels wrong. I think there are already almost too many icons.
• Making the camera accessible only from pairing/room dialogs adds extra step and makes it more confusing to find.
• Tab bar with a separate tab for the camera sounds like a good option, but that, again, goes against the idea of simplicity. However, in return it'll help clean up the UI and improve the UX.

Also, do you host PairDrop yourself or do you use pairdrop.net? I guess we could make the manifest variable "display": "standalone" editable via an environment variable.

I use pairdrop.net. I guess that's not a bad idea, especially if there's an explanation of what it will change.

[schlagmichdoch]

Thanks for your thoughts!

That occured to me too, but I thought it went against the idea of simplicity that you talk about in FAQ.

Yes true, it’s not easy to find the right balance and keep the main user flow straight forward.

In the end, an in-app QR-code scanner would only be an improvement for the PWA and for (future) apps. So it could be a compromise to show the camera button only when these states are recognized. (We could easily check that the PWA is running standalone and an app could use an API call.)

So it would never be shown to users that use the browser or on Desktop browsers (which would not make much sense) but only from the app.

• Adding another icon at the top feels wrong. I think there are already almost too many icons.
• Making the camera accessible only from pairing/room dialogs adds extra step and makes it more confusing to find.
• Tab bar with a separate tab for the camera sounds like a good option, but that, again, goes against the idea of simplicity. However, in return it'll help clean up the UI and improve the UX.

Good points. A tab bar would be on the bottom of everything else, wouldn’t it? I’m resistent to use up even more vertical space as the most space should be reserved for the peers..

My current favorite would be on the top left corner analogous to the about PairDrop (x) button. Any thoughts?

I guess that's not a bad idea, especially if there's an explanation of what it will change.

Sure there would be a reference in the docs

[aivarovskiy]

So it would never be shown to users that use the browser or on Desktop browsers (which would not make much sense) but only from the app.

Didn't quite get it. Why wouldn't it make sense? Because of tablets and laptops with rear cameras?

[aivarovskiy]

Good points. A tab bar would be on the bottom of everything else, wouldn’t it? I’m resistent to use up even more vertical space as the most space should be reserved for the peers..

Yeah, on the bottom like in IOS apps. Maybe you're right.

My current favorite would be on the top left corner analogous to the about PairDrop (x) button. Any thoughts?

I guess that's the best solution if you don't feel like adding a tab bar.

[schlagmichdoch]

Didn't quite get it. Why wouldn't it make sense? Because of tablets and laptops with rear cameras?

I don’t think anyone would scan a QR code via the front camera of a laptop so I would hide the button on Desktop. I’m not sure about Tablets.

I guess the best approach would be to only show the button if display is standalone and device is Android / iOS.

It’s a small feature though that would add complexity. I will put this into ‚to be decided‘ for now.