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Cohomology rings of finite p-groups: new version #7195
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I modified the description, since a while ago David Green mentioned off list that the description gives the wrong impression that he is co-author for the new parts of the spkg. So, I changed it accordingly. From my point of view, David Green is certainly co-author for the SPKG, and addressed as such in the documentation: His code is in it since the very beginning. However, I still did not get the exact meaning of "Author of a ticket". Is it just myself (since I wrote the new parts, which this ticket is about) or is it David Green and I (since we are the authors of the SPKG)? Please help! |
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I sent some suggestions for the next version of this spkg (due out soon) to the author "off-list". |
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This compiles fine and passes sage -testall. |
Reviewer: David Joyner |
Changed author from Simon King, David Green to Simon King, David J. Green |
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unique name |
Here is version 1.2 of our package for the computation of cohomology rings of finite p-groups.
The new parts of the package are all written by myself. But of course, David Green's C-code and GAP code is still preserved from previous package versions.
Installation
Currently, one installs the gap databases first and then retrieves our package from sage.math:
News and Changes
Bar Codes
The notion of bar codes respectively of persistent group cohomology was introduced by Graham Ellis and Simon King. The idea is borrowed from applied mathematics. There, one wants to describe the geometric shape of point clouds.
In the point cloud setting, on the one hand one filters the data by "importance" (say, by a density threshold), on the other hand one thickens the points to some size, so that they overlap to some extend, and obtains geometric shapes that can be studied by homology methods. Changing threshold or point size, one obtains inclusions of geometric shapes, which gives rise to induced maps in homology. Not all homology generators "survive" being mapped, and new generators might show up. The idea is to focus on those homology generators that survive for the longest time (this is depicted by bar codes), which gives some idea of the geometric shape of the point cloud.
For a group G, we start with any normal series, e.g., the Upper Central Series. We obtain a chain of normal subgroups of increasing size, thus, inclusion maps, and we obtain a chain of factor groups of decreasing size, thus, quotient maps. These maps give rise to a chain of induced homomorphisms of cohomology rings, the cohomology of G being in the middle.
In any degree d, we may ask how many d-cocycles of the involved cohomology rings survive being mapped. If, say, a 2-dimensional subspace is mapped injectively by three consecutive induced maps and killed by the fourth map, then we would depict two bars of length 3. In the pictures below, the bars go from right to left, since we have CO-homology...
Of course, if the normal series is characteristic then the bar code in each degree is a group invariant. The bar code in each degree can be encoded by an upper triangular integer matrix. So, these are very simple data, but still they contain much information about the group, as is shown below.
There is one advantage of cohomology over homology: We have the structure of a finitely presented ring, hence, we can capture all degrees at once, by Poincare series. This is also possible for bar codes. We thus obtain a 3d arrangement of bars, which is encoded by an upper triangular matrix of rational functions.
Examples
We work here with groups of order 64, that are part of the cohomology data base shipped with the package.
The Poincare series, the a-invariants, the degrees of generators and of relations of the cohomology rings coincide:
So, the rings are "almost" the same.
We consider here the bar codes associated with the upper central series. It turns out that the non-trivial terms of the upper central series and the resulting factor groups are isomorphic:
Hence, there is no obvious way to tell the two groups apart by using the cohomology rings and the upper central series. However, even though the non-trivial parts of the series are isomorphic, the group homomorphisms in the series give rise to essentially different induced maps:
Hence, the bar codes can tell the two groups apart. In fact, this is already the case in degree 3:
So, the difference is that the cohomology of
SmallGroup(64,160)
has one 3-cocycle that comes from the last non-trivial factor group of the upper central series, while no such 3-cocycle exists forSmallGroup(64,158)
.Here are the corresponding integer matrices, which provide a very handy way to distinguish the groups:
Here is a smaller example, in which we show the Poincare series:
There are two ways to obtain the bar codes in a specific degree d: Either one computes the "full" persistence, using Poincare series computed by commutative algebra, and computes the data for degree d from it. Or, one only works in that degree and uses linear algebra.
Both methods yield the same result:
Known Issues
As much as I understood, both is currently a general problem for Sage and not restricted to our package.
CC: david.green@uni-jena.de graham.ellis@nuigalway.ie @wdjoyner @jhpalmieri
Component: group theory
Keywords: cohomology ring group barcode
Author: Simon King, David J. Green
Reviewer: David Joyner
Issue created by migration from https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/7195
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