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<OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [3737]: xformsorbeon module: basic xform creation working! <<a href="http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3737" class="external-link" rel="nofollow">http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/3737</a>>
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<r0bby> oh joy
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<sunbiz> hi guys !!
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<sunbiz> anyone still awake ??
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<HongJun> I am awake
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<HongJun> since here is daytime
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<HongJun> :)
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<HongJun> sunbiz: where a u
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<sunbiz> Im fron India...
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<r0bby> im going to bed
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<sunbiz> yeah... I saw at the logs someone askign about jar
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<sunbiz> so...I thought it'd be good to help
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<sunbiz> in the manifest to make an executable...we need to add: Main-Class: <name of MainClass>
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<r0bby> sunbiz: it's over
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<r0bby> lol
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<r0bby> he knows about Main-Class
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<sunbiz> okk... I didnt see an update on the logs then!! :))
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<r0bby> he didnt mention it again so i assume he resolved it.
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<r0bby> he wasn't sure if IDEA set the main class
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<sunbiz> yeah... I guess show internet connections suck !! ;-D
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<sunbiz> *slow
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<r0bby> and i think grails hates me
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<sunbiz> robby: :-D ... u should be more optimistic... Its grails..Its Holy!!
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<sunbiz> I guess everyones sleeping.. I'd better leave as well... cya then!!
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<bwolfe> hello there seanfabs
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<bwolfe> welcome
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<seanfabs> hello, I was wondering about the google summer of code actually
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<seanfabs> can anyone help?
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<bwolfe> yep
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<bwolfe> ask away
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<napi> pff. seanfabs gets a hello, 2 minutes before when I joined I got nothing!
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<napi> discrimination I tell you
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<bwolfe> good morning napi
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<seanfabs> ok, is there a specific time in the summer - I have exams till mid june
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<napi> morning bwolfe :D
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<bwolfe> napi: I like to greet all newcomers...you're no longer new :-p
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<napi> seanfabs theres a pretty detailed timeline on the GSoC website
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<napi> think the project "officially starts" on the 26th may
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<seanfabs> of course, but I can't myself!
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<napi> <a href="http://code.google.com/soc/2008/faqs.html#0.1_timeline" class="external-link" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/soc/2008/faqs.html#0.1_timeline</a>
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<OpenMRSBot> <<a href="http://ln-s.net/1ez7" class="external-link" rel="nofollow">http://ln-s.net/1ez7</a>> (at <a href="http://code.google.com/" class="external-link" rel="nofollow">code.google.com</a>)
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<napi> lol bwolfe fair enough. :p
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<bwolfe> !gsocfaq
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<OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "gsocfaq" --- The GSoC 2008 FAQs are quite complete: <a href="http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2008/faqs.html" class="external-link" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2008/faqs.html</a>
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<bwolfe> !gsocfaq @ seanfabs
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<OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Error: "gsocfaq" is not a valid command.
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<bwolfe> bummer, that would be nice if it worked
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<napi> !gsocfaq
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<OpenMRSBot> napi: Error: "gsocfaq" is not a valid command.
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<napi> hm
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<bwolfe> seanfabs: can you start before the official starttime?
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<seanfabs> no, it would have to be after - mid june time
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<bwolfe> hmm, thats about 3 weeks late...can you work 3 weeks after the deadline?
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<bwolfe> seanfabs: the problem is that the midterm would come only a few weeks after you start. it would be hard to judge how well you've done or how you will do by only a small amount
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<seanfabs> Yep, I don't know how strict google are going to be with those dates though
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<bwolfe> if there was a way for you to start early, saw after student selection and before the official starttime, then take some time off to study and take exams, that might work
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<bwolfe> seanfabs: they are strict about the midterm evaluations...not so much about exactly when you code
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<seanfabs> I am free now till the first week of April
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<bwolfe> 5 days?
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<seanfabs> I see what you mean
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<seanfabs> no, say the 7th
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<bwolfe> accepted students aren't accounced until April 14
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<seanfabs> ah well, it seems to not be possible
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<napi> o'realy? Perfect timing if I get accepted- thats when I spend 2 weeks knocking my bioinformatics coursework out the park (java.. woo)
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<napi> <a href="http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~nxk/TEACHING/G53BIO/Coursework2007-2008.htm" class="external-link" rel="nofollow">http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~nxk/TEACHING/G53BIO/Coursework2007-2008.htm</a> - very cool project
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<bwolfe> seanfabs: :-/
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<bwolfe> seanfabs: where do you go to school?
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<seanfabs> hmm, the only other way was if I got the odd weekend
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<seanfabs> I am in the UK
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<seanfabs> I got to a university in Brighton
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<njero> bwolfe: do you know who wrote the login (and password hashing) code?
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<bwolfe> njero: I did
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<njero> aha, I thought so
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<bwolfe> seanfabs: which one?
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<bwolfe> njero: what'd I do? :-/
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<seanfabs> Univeristy of Sussex
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<njero> I have been working on the Southern Summer of Code and stumbled on a bug
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<njero> but it is a debateable bug
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<bwolfe> heh
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<njero> So the hash code is correctly creating the digest for the password+salt, but the hex encoding is problematic. Because each byte is encoded individually when the byte is < 16 it uses a single character to encode
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<njero> In my test this created a password that was 5 bytes shorter than it should have been
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<njero> Ultimately this means that the hashing algorithm is not a compatabile algorithm (e.g. with the SHA1 function built into Mysql or built into other languages)
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<bwolfe> seanfabs: ah, ok. I had remember wrong. we have some graduate students working on projects that go to Univ of Bristol....I was remembering that as "brighton"
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<seanfabs> ok, so what do you think?
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<bwolfe> seanfabs: about? those students are not part of gsoc. they are doing work as part of graduate thesis's
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<bwolfe> njero: and the proposed solution is... ?
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<njero> bwolfe: In any event I modded our Ruby code at Baobab to support both methodologies
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<njero> I am working on a patch... but 1) the code for encoding the hex needs to be changed and 2) the comparator for passwords/hashes needs to support both mechanisms for supporting legacy passwords
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<njero> Or we need a migration that will update all of the passwords... but that is pretty tough to write because it is a one way hash...
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