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<docpaul> i got a good feeling about you.
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<docpaul> take care!
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<r0bby> when i get off my ass :)
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<nribeka> hi all
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<nribeka> bwolfe: i have a question and idea on automatic webapp update module
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<nribeka> do you want the patch to be for each file or one big patch (if i found a lot that need to be changed) for the internationalization?
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<bwolfe> nribeka: one big patch. you can select "create patch" on the parent folder and create a patch for multiple files
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<nribeka> ok, next one, i found this one inside the jsp, do you consider this kind of thing need an internationalization: The page xxx cannot be found. Check the link and try again.
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<nribeka> my idea for the webapp update is by using Cargo (<a href="http://cargo.codehaus.org/" class="external-link" rel="nofollow">http://cargo.codehaus.org</a>)
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<nribeka> they have a thin wrapper to manage your j2ee container
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<bwolfe> nribeka: interesting
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<nribeka> and the have the notion deployable (WAR and EAR) in the API that can be deployed to container
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<nribeka> *they have the notion deployable
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<paranaliyanage> Hi Ben
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<nribeka> so we can manage the deployable and the container
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<bwolfe> hey paranaliyanage
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<bwolfe> nribeka: so the cargo war is just another webapp that would sit next to openmrs in tomcat/jetty/whatever ?
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<paranaliyanage> you asked me to come for a chat
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<paranaliyanage> I m GSoC guy
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<nribeka> we can start the container, stop it and deploy the deployable (openmrs war file)
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<nribeka> carge is in form of jar (API)
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<bwolfe> paranaliyanage: yep, see your email now.
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<paranaliyanage> u send me a mail??
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<bwolfe> nribeka: have you used it before? (do you know anything more than whats on their webpage there)
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<bwolfe> paranaliyanage: not since that first reply asking you to come here. :-)
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<bwolfe> paranaliyanage: what are you ideas on enhancing patient image support?
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<paranaliyanage> :)
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<paranaliyanage> its a nice idea
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<bwolfe> paranaliyanage: its a fairly basic module that would just let users manage photos for each user. (a way to upload a photo, choose a default, see past photos, etc)
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<nribeka> i think i'm familiar enough with the API
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<bwolfe> nribeka: so you've used it?
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<nribeka> i help my friend code to enable cargo to support a container before
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<bwolfe> ah ok
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<nribeka> he want to manage a container that is not supported by cargo (yet at that time)
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<paranaliyanage> so I need to add that component and add it to the web application
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<bwolfe> so how do you deploy the jar? just load it into the tomcat's lib directory?
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<paranaliyanage> am I right??
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<bwolfe> paranaliyanage: well, its a module, so its a separate plugin for openmrs, essentially. see <a href="http://openmrs.org/wiki/modules" class="external-link" rel="nofollow">http://openmrs.org/wiki/modules</a>
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<bwolfe> paranaliyanage: I didn't really get what you meant by your current project. how are you encoding a picture in a barcode??
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<paranaliyanage> human can understand 32*32
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<paranaliyanage> pictures
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<paranaliyanage> no smaller ones
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<nribeka> i think we can include it inside the openmrs lib
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<paranaliyanage> within a 2-D barcode we are encoding both data and a picture
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<paranaliyanage> U konw 2D barcodes right??
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<paranaliyanage> So it is just like a portable data file
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<paranaliyanage> Consider ID card for an example
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<nribeka> but my concern is openmrs update module will be depend on cargo, is it ok?
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<paranaliyanage> so we can encode face + name and other details
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<paranaliyanage> got me??
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<bwolfe> nribeka: hmm, well there are two parts to the openmrs updater. there is the part that can be included in the war file: it checks for updates from openmrs and downloads it. the update includes both a new war file and a sqldiff file to run on the database. the sql file can be run by the part in openmrs. however, to update the war file, tomcat needs to be restarted. the war file needs to be dropped in <tomcathome>/webapps/openmrs.war a
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<bwolfe> nd tomca tneeds to be restarted. the tricky part is starting tomcat from a webapp that is stopped! :-) I was thinking this project would require a small java file that could be either spawned or run in the background that does that restarting for the user after the war file is updating
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<bwolfe> nribeka: dependencies are ok, yes...especially if it is a module
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<bwolfe> paranaliyanage: so with a plain eye you would just see a barcode?
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<bwolfe> and when its scanned and decoded you can get an image and data out of it?
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<paranaliyanage> of course
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<nribeka> that's what cargo are meant for
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<paranaliyanage> yep
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<nribeka> i think we can fork another process
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<bwolfe> nribeka: hmm, very interesting
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<bwolfe> nribeka: and sounds easier than my idea. :-)
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<nribeka> the process will stop tomcat, deploy the new deployable (openmrs war file) and then start the tomcat again
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<nribeka> hopefully it easier, well the api of cargo is pretty straight forward
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<bwolfe> ooo, very sweet
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<bwolfe> nribeka: can a jvm create another jvm? thats the problem I see: tomcat is in its own jvm...any process it creates is in that jvm...and stopping tomcat stops that jvm :-/
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<bwolfe> paranaliyanage: do you have a place this is used or will be used?
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<paranaliyanage> In our country, People registration Department is going to develop this
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<paranaliyanage> because people can't easily cheat by making different ID cards
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<nribeka> wow, i haven't think about it
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<bwolfe> paranaliyanage: is that going to be a national database
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<paranaliyanage> no
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<paranaliyanage> there are no databases
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<bwolfe> nribeka: I don't know that for sure though, can you do a little research on it? :-)
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<paranaliyanage> 2D barcodes replaces databases
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<bwolfe> paranaliyanage: ah, so people have all of their data with them
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<bwolfe> paranaliyanage: is it encrypted somehow? I'm sure people could fake it if they knew your algorithm
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<paranaliyanage> So we wrote the application to decode the image and get data
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<nribeka> ok probably i'll have a look at it again and do some test
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<bwolfe> paranaliyanage: where country do you live it? (who is going to implement it)
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<paranaliyanage> Sri Lanka
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<paranaliyanage> have u heard?? :)
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<nribeka> bwolfe: i'll let you know about the result
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<bwolfe> paranaliyanage: ah, I missed that in your email :-)
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<paranaliyanage> Normally 1D barcodes gives us a index
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<paranaliyanage> we have to use it to retrieve records
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<paranaliyanage> 2D barcodes contains data itself
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<nribeka> i surely hope we can use cargo because we can create installer too using the same idea
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<paranaliyanage> so it can be used in many applications
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<paranaliyanage> even in library system
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<paranaliyanage> so Ben it seems similar requirement
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<paranaliyanage> am I rught
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