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<cancer> !list
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<aciniglio> I'm a student looking at gsoc, so I thought I'd come see what's up!
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<bmckown> Great to have you in our chat room. Welcome! Do you have any questions about OpenMRS we could answer?
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<aciniglio> bmckown, I'm looking through the projects site right now and under the heading "good first projects" you have several things listed. Is completion of one of these tasks required/recommended?
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<bwolfe> required? no recommended, of course! :-)
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<bmckown> I 'think' we are emphasizing the 'Google Summer of Code 2008' projects for gsoc, as opposed to the 'good first projects', right bwolfe ?
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<bwolfe> that is correct bmckown
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<bmckown> We generally try to keep a list of good projects up on this page. Some complex, some trivial. So that anyone can participate.
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<bmckown> gsoc projects lean on being more complex.
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<bwolfe> the "good first projects" are not really a gsoc2008 applicable. but if a student wants to do a "good first project" before the summer just to warm up...by all means :-)
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<aciniglio> I see what you mean, I didn't realize that there were projects on the page other than gsoc. I just thought that the 'good first projects' were like qualification projects
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<bmckown> We do not require completion of a project in order to qualify for a gsoc project.
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<bmckown> Can you tell us a little about yourself, aciniglio? What is your area of interest?
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<aciniglio> Sure, I am a Sophomore in college and am thinking of a CS major
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<aciniglio> This will really be the first software programming experience I have had outside of the classroom
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<bmckown> Cool. How did you hear about OpenMRS?
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<aciniglio> I learned about you guys from the google mentors page
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<aciniglio> I was premed until a semester ago, so I am interested in what you do
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<bmckown> I see.
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<aciniglio> I think the other thing that caught my eye was that a lot of your code is in java (right?)
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<bmckown> Correct.
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<aciniglio> and that's really the language i am most comfortable with
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<bmckown> Java, JSP, SQL.
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<bmckown> Okay.
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<aciniglio> I'm not sure what else to add...
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<bmckown> That's fine. (oh, and a lot of Javascript)
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<aciniglio> I see
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<bwolfe> bmckown: a lot??
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<bmckown> We also use Spring framework and Hibernate.
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<bwolfe> it only depends on what you do
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<aciniglio> haha :-[
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<bmckown> My last check on the ohloh statistics, I thought we have a large percentage of Javascript in the code.
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<aciniglio> Did you guys do gsoc last year?
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<bmckown> Yes, last year was our first year.
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<bmckown> We had about 12 students.
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<aciniglio> cool
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<aciniglio> !
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<aciniglio> were any of them novices like myself? or were most of them pretty experienced?
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<bwolfe> half were undergraduates and half were graduate students
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<bwolfe> bmckown: yes, there is a lot of javascript in there because ohloh counts that whole /script/dojo file as stuff we've written
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<bwolfe> bmckown: and because dojo is /huge/ it looks like its a large percentage of our project
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<aciniglio> so how did you guys get involved with openMRS?
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<bwolfe> we both work full time for openmrs as our day jobs
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<aciniglio> cool. have you been with the project since the beginning?
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<bwolfe> I have. brian joined us about a year ago
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<bmckown> aciniglio: I was pretty novice when I started I think.
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<bmckown> Probably still am novice.
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<aciniglio> haha
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<bmckown> bwolfe however, holds the wisdom of the universe.... almost.
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<bmckown> Sorry aciniglio I had stepped away for a minute.
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<aciniglio> no worries
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<aciniglio> i think i found what i needed anyways
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<aciniglio> thanks though!
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<bmckown> We have a page on our wiki I think about subversion and Mac.
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<bmckown> Or at least installing openmrs on a mac.
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<bwolfe> welcome nribeka
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<nribeka> hi bwolfe ...
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<bwolfe> gsoc student hopeful I'm guessing?
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<nribeka> i'm still reading the irc logs
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<nribeka> haha ...
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<nribeka> :D
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<bwolfe> ah, excellent first step
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<nribeka> i'm interested in the andersG conversation with you ...
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<nribeka> what did he do for openmrs?
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<bwolfe> he worked on the synchronization branch with several of our core developers
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<bwolfe> the branch has yet to be merged because its such a huge project
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<bwolfe> the guys working on it swear its almost done though :-)
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<nribeka> haha ... that's interesting and you said that they test it in rwanda make it more interesting
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<nribeka> oh i forgot, i'm a grad students in health information system
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<nribeka> and the openmrs caught my eyes
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<nribeka> i never thought there would be an open source for medical stuff :D
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<bwolfe> yeah, there aren't too many like us
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<bwolfe> yeah, the developers that are working on that branch have their installation in rwanda...so that is where its testing first
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<nribeka> and i know healthcare is very expensive here in us :)
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<bwolfe> it is, yes...and commercial medical record systems definitely don't help that :-p
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<nribeka> i see the project list and i think most of them are doable :)
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<nribeka> but you never know until you your feet wet :D
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<nribeka> bwolfe, nice to talk to you
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<nribeka> i have to go now ...
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