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<bwolfe> welcome, pjovanovic
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<pjovanovi1> Hi, thanks
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<bwolfe> I'm assuming gsoc brings you to our humble corner of freenode? :-)
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<pjovanovi1> but of course :)
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<pjovanovi1> i'm looking around your project
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<bwolfe> have you scanned all projects up through the "o"s already?? I'm impressed
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<pjovanovi1> I'm scanning them based on their topics
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<pjovanovi1> very nice ideas page btw.
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<bwolfe> ah thanks
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<bwolfe> I feel like it needs some reorganization...does it not feel too overwhelming?
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<bwolfe> although I suppose if its just better than the pages other projects have up, then we're fine. :-)
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<pjovanovi1> it's fine, the more info provided the better
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<pjovanovi1> although i think it might give rise to some copy n paste applications
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<bwolfe> yeah, we had a few of those last year. and personally I think thats fine for the abstract part of the app as long as the student shows that they understand what is going on in the longer text portion
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<bwolfe> the abstract for the selected students is used on the google pages...so it should make sense and be complete
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<kenny_> hello all...i'm a student who found you guys through the summer of code page. Some fun looking ideas you have going.
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<bmckown> Hi and welcome, kenny_
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<bwolfe> fun looking, eh kenny_ ?
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<kenny_> both the image manipulation and drug resistance prediction caught my eye.
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<kenny_> i also noticed mention of cohorts. Are there stats and data mining modules in the project?
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<bwolfe> kenny_: there are some stats stuff built in that is done on parts of data stored
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<bwolfe> we use the word "cohort" to mean a cohort of Patients, usually
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<bwolfe> and I don't think there is much in the way of showing stats for patients
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<kenny_> gotcha
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<bwolfe> kenny_: just as an fyi, the projects page lists off some projects that have been assigned already to other developers
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<bwolfe> (the drug resistance is one of those)
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<bwolfe> kenny_ / pjovanovi1 : answer me this, if you will...it has always intrigued me. with so many projects on that gsoc page, how does one tackle it? Do you go through each project and read about each page?? Do you just read the abstracts? Do you only click on names that look interesting/familiar?
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<kenny_> i'm working on a phd in neuroscience, so i'm specifically targeting projects in the medical/sciences field
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<pjovanovi1> I read the list where projects were sorted by topics, and though i don't have much bio/medical background, i found bioinformatics projects interesting to check out
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<bwolfe_openmrs> neuroscience? very cool. thats actually one of my interests as well! where are you studying?
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<kenny_> i do drug addiction, looking at changes in neuronal activity due to chronic alcohol
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<bwolfe_openmrs> pjovanovi1: category? makes sense, but I'm not seeing a page sorted that way. where'd you find that?
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<bwolfe_openmrs> kenny_: and you happen to be a programmer as well?
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<pjovanovi1> it's on genmapp, just a sec
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<pjovanovi1> yes, i'm CS student
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<kenny_> yep. i have a bs in cs and worked in telecommunications for a bit before going back to school
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<pjovanovi1> this is the list: <a href="http://genmapp.org/gsoc/mentors_by_category.htm" class="external-link" rel="nofollow">http://genmapp.org/gsoc/mentors_by_category.htm</a>
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<bwolfe_openmrs> looks like we don't have much competition in the way of other health-care/save-the-world projects :-)
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<pjovanovi1> guess so :)
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<kenny_> nope, just lots of pesky python people
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<bwolfe_openmrs> we use mysql primarily, yes
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<bwolfe_openmrs> we use hibernate as a object-relational mapper, so we're /mostly/ database agnostic
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<bwolfe_openmrs> unfortunately some mysql specific stuff has snuck into our database diff scripts and in one or two very specialized methods
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<kenny_> have to go do some research. i'll be back on soon after i've perused through the list some more. There are a couple of ideas I'd like to discuss more with you all.
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<bwolfe_openmrs> sure thing
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<bwolfe_openmrs> I'm here all day :-)
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<bwolfe_openmrs> ...and all day tomorrow...
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<bwolfe_openmrs> hey there AndersG
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<AndersG> i'm trying to do my school work.. writing that thesis :/
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<bwolfe_openmrs> haha, they haven't "released" you yet??
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<bwolfe_openmrs> I'm pretty sure your part is done
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<bwolfe_openmrs> you did /way/ above and beyond
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<AndersG> hehe, they have, haven't talked with Christian and Maros for a long time actually
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<bwolfe_openmrs> the sync stuff is /very/ close to be being done
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<AndersG> I do hope however that I'll be back sometime to do something without any pressure
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<bwolfe_openmrs> they are using it in rwanda as a test bed right now
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<AndersG> yeah, I saw some write-up of it from Christian a few days ago, it sounded good
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<bwolfe_openmrs> AndersG: you're welcome anytime to help out :-)
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<AndersG> good experience participating though, but I'd probably do things a little bit different next time
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<AndersG> too many things going on at the same time when I started up
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<AndersG> wasted too much time reading articles on stuff that didn't work out, should ask questions earlier etc.
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<AndersG> right now I'm just trying to finish up school.. but I've been trying that for some time already ;)
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<AndersG> I'll start working in August probably, that's what my contract says at least
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<bwolfe_openmrs> AndersG: it would be /awesome/ if you could write either a blog post on that or a wiki page on your thoughts and what you would do differently if (when) you were to do it again
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<bwolfe_openmrs> heh, so a job is lined up? awesome! where about?
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<AndersG> yeah, easy to get a job these days over here - though that's probably changing over the next couple of years
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<AndersG> everything happened extremely fast.. actually I got two similar jobs, took me a week each of them, including everything.
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<AndersG> ended up signing for Capgemini, a French-based company
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<AndersG> consulting business, java development
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<bwolfe_openmrs> travel involved?
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<AndersG> nah, just for some courses initially I believe
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<AndersG> got friends working there, and it's pretty stable
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<AndersG> mostly work in the 10-20 biggest private companies in the country + public sector
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<AndersG> several big projects going on, often over several years
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<AndersG> hard choice though, have friends working for both of those companies and they're looking almost the same to me..
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<bwolfe_openmrs> different kind of consulting than I'm used to
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<AndersG> the other company was Accenture btw, you probably now them..
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<bwolfe_openmrs> yeah, I've heard of them
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<AndersG> all of the big companies focus on the public sector because of the fairly huge long term contracts, especially as people are expecting that the market will go down over the next couple of years.. talking about a 5 year cycle or so..
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<AndersG> huge -> large
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<bwolfe_openmrs> interesting
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<bwolfe_openmrs> so will you be staying in norway, or moving somewhere else?
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<AndersG> I'm staying here for now at least
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<AndersG> still hope I'll have time to take a trip over to the US during the summer though, but just for a short vacation
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<bwolfe_openmrs> hopefully near Indy or Boston? :-)
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<AndersG> yes, I hope I'll be able to pop by sometime in the future
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<bwolfe_openmrs> or you could fly down to rwanda and see your handiwork there as well :-)
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