[Question] i rapidly answered +100 new card and this destroyed my fsrs

[fata-patata]

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i have been using fsrs since its release with a desired retention of 0.9 and i was always satisfied with it, but lately i was making some new cards and it summed up around 100-200 cards, and i said since i made the cards myself ofc i will know them, so i used this add-on that i can select all the cards at the same time and grade them manually, after i did this, now my 2nd good on new cards is 3.1m away, this is not logical to me and i wanted to know how can i manually decrease the stability modifier, tried copy and pasting my friends fsrs parameters but it had no effect at all, what can be done for that situation?

[L-M-Sherlock]

How did you grade cards manually? Please post a screenshot of the affected card's info (review history and other details). It will help me locate the problem.

[fata-patata]

i used an addon called (AJT card management), in which you can basically select the cards that you want in the browse section and grade them with again, good, hard, and easy.(attachment 1)

and for the affected card info i have provided the previous card info and the current card info.

my main issue is that even if i change the current parameters, it never affects the cards and i have no clue why this is happening.

[L-M-Sherlock]

Please use this feature to reschedule these cards.

[fata-patata]

so i have tried that feature although i have done the reschedule all card multiple times, right now i have a card that said 2.2months and after i selected it on the browse and update its memory state and reschedule did not change anything

[L-M-Sherlock]

What's your FSRS parameters?

[fata-patata]

this was my old parameter:
0.4026, 1.1839, 3.1730, 13.3540, 9.0910, 0.5345, 1.4420, 0.0280, 1.1210, 0.1192, 0.8730, 4.5680, 0.1100, 0.2960, 2.2698, 0.2315, 2.9898, 0.5165, 0.6621

and this is the parameter that i took from a friend of mine:
0.4887, 0.4887, 1.6183, 3.5951, 5.1825, 1.4477, 0.7543, 0.1151, 1.6535, 0.3717, 0.9844, 2.1379, 0.0556, 0.2118, 1.5640, 0.1927, 3.0001

[L-M-Sherlock]

Could you share your collection file with me? I will try to reproduce this problem. Or you can update to Anki 25.01 beta and re-optimize the parameters.

https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/anki-25-01-beta/54490/2

[fata-patata]

i just updated to the beta version and took an old backup of mine to test it(since i pressed again on all my learning cards hoping it will fix them), and i re added the parameter and selected the cards and update state and re-schedule but it didnt work sadly.

i also tried to re-optimize the same backup deck option and reschedule but no use again.

also im sorry but how can i share my collection file, as github does not allow .apkg files to be shared.

[L-M-Sherlock]

Could you share it via google drive? Or you can change the suffix of .apkg to .zip.

[fata-patata]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Vd3MhVFr4EEYzz77SYetkbRuX0p8O-lw?usp=sharing

here you go, its not the full deck but its a part of it that contains my scheduling information and here are to Note iDs that can help you identify some of the troublesome cards i have in there

NID:1736875402610
NID:1736878118413

[L-M-Sherlock]

Weird. I import the deck, and check the cards. Their memory state is normal:

[fata-patata]

very weird indeed, i might just do my reviews for a while and see what happens, the thing is i don't even know whats the reasoning of why this is happening, i remember once my friends was like that but his got fixed with the anki update, i even redo my hard cards and rescheduled all my cards multiple times on the new parameters but it doesnt seem to help, i also tried pressing again on the long duration cards but after two good presses, the second good press becomes >2 months, as of today i havent seen a card like that yet(mostly because i pressed again on all of them and today is my first good press on them) but let me know if you had any idea i can try on.

also thank you very much i have been taking a great time from you.

[L-M-Sherlock]

Maybe I could reproduce this bug via your backup file. I mean the .colpkg file.

[fata-patata]

i have just put a backup of the file on the same drive link:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Vd3MhVFr4EEYzz77SYetkbRuX0p8O-lw?usp=drive_link

[fata-patata]

i think i have found the solution!, i have optimized the parameter of my (90%) preset on only my orthopedics deck, the current deck in which i have provided, the other studying decks that i have are all running on my 88% preset, in which they have different deck option basically with the retention of 88% for less overload, now here comes my mistake, i have tried optimizing my Orthopedics deck with the 90% preset with only Orthopedics cards being there(the 109cards mass selected grading good included) and the optimization was based on those cards only and it ruined the deck completely, i think i have fixed it by basically putting all my decks together and then optimize and then put the older decks back on 88% again, this made my card be rescheduled on their actual good time, but there is still one concern and it was when i was pasting my friends parameters, they never changed anything in the deck, maybe i was doing a step wrong, i though its just copying and pasting the parameter in the parameter section and delete mine over there or just a bug idk
anyhow here's a screenshot of one of the cards after this thing i did, thanks very much for reaching out and helping, i will update this if i have any useful information to add.

also here is one of the two card example that i gave after my so called fix(hopefully):

[L-M-Sherlock]

You have fixed the problem, so I will close this issue.