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Zulidyana Rusnalasari: My name is Zulidyana
Rusnalasari, you can call me
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Lydia or Jana, I'm a public
relations official have their
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own general Indonesia is
nonprofit organizations to help
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together people and sharing
their knowledge. And what we are
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different from the others
nonprofit organization, because
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actually, when we started, we
don't know much about journal
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publications, academic
publication, and so on. We're
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growing together, learning and
sharing and updating all the
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time. That's why I, in the
title, I call it, it's a never
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ending learning because we
always do the learning process
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from the beginning of the
organization. And until now. So
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first of all, I will tell you
about the story about Indonesia
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during this five years. So we
have to make up publishers, in
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journals, and academies. There
are several very big publishers,
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they really dominate almost all
subjects. Even in Indonesia,
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even we have the language
barriers. So as you know that
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English is not my native
language, I am Indonesians. But
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because I learned English
literature, and so on. So I can
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overcome those language barriers.
So pardon me if my English is
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not really good. But I will try
my best to explain you about the
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stories of about
puplishers in Malaysia. We lack
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sources. And we also lack
support. That's why it's
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like we, we were in 2016, we
started this organization, like
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some people in a dark room. And
we have to some people in the
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tap room, and we close our eyes.
So even when our eyes just
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opened, we still cannot see
anything. That's why we have to
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make the light itself by
sharing. So this picture is
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created by Mr. Irwin, that will
be present next week. Our local
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and national publisher is just
like this, and we are surviving
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until now. And we are still
growing and the number of
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journals in Indonesia is growing
very fast. And this is not all
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journalism, Indonesia is about
business. But mostly we share
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because we want to participate.
So that started in 2016. There
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were changed in government
regulation in scientific
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publication for from printed to
online. So they gather people's
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gather information from
trainings and meetings. But
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sadly at the time, those
trainings and those meetings are
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very expensive. We have some
organization that already well
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literally about this academic
publishing, but they are so
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explosives. So we have to spend
more than in a very big amount
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of money. But the institution is
fairly diverse. Small
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institutions also have journal
publishing, so they cannot
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afford to join the trainings and
meetings. That's why in 2016, we
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started these organizations.
Some general managers from
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across Indonesia gather and
start the idea to build an NGO,
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the nonprofit want to educate,
this is not meaning that we will
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advocate it now but we started
in a very basic level of
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knowledge support academic
publishing show. We are building
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a community. We have the general
managers along with also center
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viewers.
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And in 2007 and 2020. When we
when we launch our one of our we
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will launch one of our or
publications, a program. We have
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these pictures from outside the
organization. So Mr. Edward is
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drawing this. But actually, he's
not part of our organization.
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But he was saying that, as an
organization, we have the
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skills, we have the knowledge,
and we have the public support.
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That's what power us, because we
want to say, have research that
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really engaging to all people,
not only for those in academia,
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but also for society. And it
also can influence the
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government in the long run. But
the potential that we have in
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the corners of Indonesia, in the
corners of 1000s, of islands,
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Indonesia, so has already known
by peoples not only from the
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academy publication, but also
for all people that becomes, for
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example, like teachers, or
lecturers, students, even those
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who are claiming themselves as
researchers, because we have a
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challenge that when we read
about sources, mostly sources
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are in English. But actually the
sources that already in our
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country haven't published yet.
So the language barrier becomes
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a homework for us. But we
dealing with that, because many
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of people's in, in the
organizations are volunteer,
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they are giving their time,
they're giving their energy, and
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they're also giving the ideas to
building up this nonprofit
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organization. So if we talk
about open science in Indonesian
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journals, technically,
practically, mostly because we
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are using VGS as the platform by
big IP, but the openness itself
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actually started because we are
volunteers that getting
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together, we are growing for
only bunch of people. Now we
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have more than 200 volunteers
around Indonesia, in Turkey, in
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in four, sorry, Indonesia has 34
provinces. So in each provinces,
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we have representations
representative person, who
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manage to be the person, the P
IC person, that probably if
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people need help, can come back
this person, if this person
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cannot afford to help them, they
can come back us in, in the
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center of Indonesia to to come
to the cities or they're found.
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We work together to assist, you
know, managers, this is very
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challenging, because not all
people it's very limited people
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in Indonesia that has computer
illiterate, they also have the
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language barrier. So technical
problem, internet connection,
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and also, the literacy becomes
our problem. At first in during
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three years. We start our
training by building awareness,
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why academic publication is
important for us. Why writing in
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academic way is important. Why
people have to read why. So
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those basic ideas and skills are
everywhere. It's just like a
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very big homework for us. But
this community now become a
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place to find answers because we
have a platform, we build a
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platform that people can
register lock in and
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asked because those 200
volunteers already there to
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answer the question for our
around Indonesia so they can
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drop the questions. We answer we
also provide a YouTube tutorial.
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We also provide facts, examples
and so on. In many sources. We
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also use zenodo to let's say
keeping our documents so
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everybody can access. Very, we
also have I said before coffee,
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it Usually we also going places
in Indonesia to have training,
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meeting them face to face and
train them how to manage a
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journal, academic journal,
provide even and mostly free of
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charts because now during
coffee, all of them are online.
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So these events is regularly
like, once in a week. Sometimes
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we do it once in two days for
like salaries. For example, like
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we collaborate with the oaG. We
collaborate with them. So we
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can, let's say, having salaries
of training. The best line that
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makes us always drawing is
culture of sharing. Because this
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sharing even the knowledge is
very limited in one person, but
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we share it and this part of
little knowledge that we have,
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and and then it's also join with
the others people that also
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probably just read our
knowledge, those little
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knowledge becomes the mountain
of knowledge Academy, a
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researcher, librarian, etc.
Everyone, everyone who concerned
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about academic publication
journals. Usually they becomes
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our big supporters. And we
collaborate to grow LTE, US
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Indonesian dinar fowl and
Association, because we are a
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nonprofit organization. But
concern is more in management,
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the scientific journals in a
niche gap. And to support it, we
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collaborate with our kids. We
have a good number of our kids,
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and four of the crossref
ambassadors from Indonesia, our
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energy volunteers, including me
becomes the concept ambassadors.
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And we also building a good
network with lippie lippie is
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Indonesian instead of Sciences
is a government Institute of
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sciences to the UN. For this
collaboration, we developed what
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we call a journal stories that
AI This is the platform still in
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building. I mean, it hasn't
launched yet, because we plan to
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launch this platform in June in
this June 2021. This platform
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becomes a hub between scientific
journal manager scientific
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journal Management Association
and scientific associations. So
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to that we have a different
point of view here in Indonesia.
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Because we don't, we don't
actually we don't feel
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comfortable with the link from
scimago, for example, because we
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don't really comfortable with
that. We create our network by
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also bringing up the scientific
associations. So the ones that
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we believe that those people in
associations in scientific
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Association are people can let's
say they can charge whether this
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journal has to improve in what
way? Is it a good journal? Or is
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it journal that need to improve
improvement? We are not saying
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any bad journals, because we
don't have any blacklisted
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journals. Now, we are concerning
about improving not
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blacklisting, including and
excluding indexing. That's not
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our main goal, because we build
ourselves from scratch. So we
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want everyone's to know
managers, reviewers, our users,
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they are keeping the quality as
a community along with a
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scientific Association.
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So the upsetness of course,
pragmatic people around
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Indonesia, there are so many
pragmatic people they get the
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there are also some people
becomes mafia publication. They
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provide instant publication and
ethical practice of publication.
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And the second big obstacle is
the culture of writing. In
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addition, people have a culture
of speaking and telling stories,
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but they're not really good in
writing. Actually, writing is
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one of our biggest obstacle. To
get in touch with the publishing
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in Academy, and the obstacles is
the competition among education
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institution, for me, because I,
you know, there are so many
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competitions, because of the
rank, and that make us compete
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most. But most of the ways
actually the sometimes it's not
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appropriate. That's why in
journal stories later, we don't
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have any rank. But we have
stickers and labels just like we
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are doing in games. And into in
2020 mga as a nonprofit
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organization, but we can become
the bronze sponsor for it, we
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have more than 10 people becomes
associate editors. And we have
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also three people becomes
editors into it, this is our
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milestone to participate in open
science work light. And edgy
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also become the biggest
processor affiliation in the
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world. Because even we started
as community, we, we be, we we
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help more than 5000 journals in
Indonesia and outside Indonesia,
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that publice from 1500 local
properties is so we becomes the
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number is getting high and high
because Institute's almost all
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education institutions, building
their own journals publication.
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Sometimes, probably, this is
bad, but actually we do it
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because we want more quantity to
start the quality itself. So we
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also as an organization, we also
pay, um, user journals, because
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this is an open journal. This is
our pilot project. We call it up
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letter, the pilot project
because we use open review. So
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the reviewers and outers,
everything is open, the
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reviewers can know this is not
blind review, because the author
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knows who reviews their
manuscript. And reviewers also
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participated voluntarily. We are
not bothered by the close rules
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like subscribes or blind review,
or even dance for copyright.
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Because this pub later is also
discuss about publication in
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Indonesia. We also fund half a
fund funding for research in
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academic publications in the
form to two groups of
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researchers that research about
academic publication. So those
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funding that we have, we share
it into it, our kit, and then
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also with people who has ideas
to research in academic
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publications. So the research
will be talking about
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publications. Okay, this is my
last slide. Amano my last word
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of the lifeless about Thank you.
We I call it never ending
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learning because we encourage
also teachers to inform their
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students, because we started to
look at to in the early age,
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they can submit their manuscript
or their narrative science in
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journal for school. This is also
our pilot projects. And I call
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it never ending learning because
this is a very long route and
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never ending because we always
update the informations the
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system of the journal itself,
the changing rules in the
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