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Forth Day 2016

  • video
  • Forthless Forth
  • GA144, don't want to use a lot of nodes
    • Don't need to compile over and over if I can decompile
    • Read 5-bit and generate a word
    • Lost interest and went on to other things
    • Had in mind an editor you could move in the code
    • Was able to display some toy object + source
  • Got iPhone
    • I'll do this on the iPhone
    • Bought an mini mac
    • A counter
    • Was very unhappy doing this
    • Wanted to generate object code, but no way I can do this
    • Hoped to combine apps
    • Wasn't fun
    • Toolchains complex, ill documented
    • Same on the mac
  • Maybe there's another way
    • Bought a Raspberry Pi
    • Got my Forth on to it
    • Bare metal Forth on the Pi
    • Could put an image up on the monitor
    • Could put up my source code
    • Decompiled from object code
    • Used the I/O interface with 3 key keyboard
    • Quad core, couldn't talk to the other core
    • Couldn't talk to the GPU other than display image
    • Could figure out how to talk to the USB
    • No documentation for anything
    • It wasn't fun, all the time searching the internet
    • I feel marginalized
    • They'd have to document their system
      • Undocumented conglomerations
      • Rely in internet hackers to reverse engineer
    • It's a lousy world
  • Returned to the GA144
  • Greg has an IP interface, 10 nodes
    • Do that and get on the internet, move in that direction
    • Have a USB, but can only talk to keyboard
  • Not real motivated
    • Threw away my soldering iron
    • Threw away my oscilloscope
  • At 10nm that would be 40,000 GA nodes
  • Even at 14nm
    • You submit your geometry, they convert
  • Your file has to vetted by their design rule check
  • At MOSIS 5 people could produce a chip and get 10 back
  • Hardware people aren't innovating, putting other peoples things on a chip
  • I used to think there was a conspiracy
    • Now I think people just don't want to document things
  • Haven't heard anything about colorForth today
    • That's why colorforth.com went away
    • colorFroth was a good idea, but I've got other things to do
    • colorForth is a good thing, but I think decompiler is the way to go