Nodes head, link and title?

[jhg]

Hi, will this library imlement the nodes head or link or title (like the node body) for a easy and cleand way to do things like change title, add css files, etc?

[process-bot]

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[jvoigtlaender]

Likely no.

But you may want to contribute those to http://package.elm-lang.org/packages/elm-community/html-extra

[jhg]

Some features basic like change a title in a web app, metadata for render when compiler create the html file, links to css or customize the css that the compiler create, it's a basic features that maybe it's good "live" in elm-lang in official repos and not n comunity or "extra", I think.

[jhg]

elm-lang/elm-reactor#138
elm-lang/elm-make#37
And the comunity I think also would like the features.

[jvoigtlaender]

A lot of things exist that one might consider nicer to be available in an official elm-lang repo.

And yet, https://github.com/elm-lang/core/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md#adding-new-functions applies.

Are you blocked in your work in any way if these functions are "only" available in an elm-community repo?

[jvoigtlaender]

I'm bowing out of this discussion.

Anyway, the issue tracker is not for discussions, it is for bugs. It is not even really for feature requests. Feature requests are usually first discussed in one of the community forums listed on the Elm website.

[jhg]

https://github.com/elm-lang/core#default-imports
"The intention is to include things that are both extremely useful and very unlikely to overlap with anything that anyone will ever write in a library."

A custom CSS in the HTML that the compiler generate anyone will need if want because this hasn't default good styles.

[jhg]

@jvoigtlaender sincerely Elm looks beta, even with version 0.18, and if still comunity have a default HTML that nobody use and still Elm core developers don't change it, Elm looks only a good toy for a weekend. The sad it's, that Elm developers don't see what really all people need like basic features.

[jvoigtlaender]

@jhg, there is a company that uses Elm with thousands of lines of code. You may be wrong in your estimation, is that possible? Anyway, the kinds of comparisons you make seem not very fruitful to me. Oh, and I said I was bowing out of the discussion, because it makes no sense to have it here...

[jhg]

Oh yes, using Elm from JS with custom HTML and nobody can use a HTML that is ugly (no the code, it's because it needs CSS) without CSS, or need edit it manually. But not all companies allow that because need a mature tool and if will migrate from JS is for not need use JS.

If the feature to be in comunity libraries, but even is not in comunity libraries. If all people do a thing manually maybe is good that Elm effort to automate it with a flag in the compiler for add only a simple CSS.

From before of 2015 comunity request just include a simple CSS, today it's 2017, the solutions today still is compile JS and not use HTML option... Maybe the HTML feature was added prematurely?

@jvoigtlaender I am moving it to mail list, but sincerely, do you use in your work the default HTML generate from elm make without CSS? Or you are forced to use a custom HTML and use JS option from compiler?

[djyde]

I agree with @jhg .

I am trying to use Elm in a new project. But I found that I can't even write a basic <link> to use a external css style library in elm-reactor.

Then I found elm-lang/elm-reactor#138. It's an issue from 2 years ago. But nothing was enhance.

I think it's ridiculous. I know the NoRedInk is running 100,000 lines Elm in production. But not all company or any small project will write their stylesheet themselves. By contraries, they use third party css library. And they found that it is a strange thing in Elm, even they need to do with hack.