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Missing basic, non-specialised tree seed generator #831

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empZealoth opened this issue Sep 1, 2022 · 9 comments
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Missing basic, non-specialised tree seed generator #831

empZealoth opened this issue Sep 1, 2022 · 9 comments
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Angels Bio Processing bio processing related Impact: Enhancement Improvements, not pressing

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@empZealoth
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empZealoth commented Sep 1, 2022

I can't grow basic trees without having specialised seed generators, which take special trees, basically capping my factory, I'm pretty sure you could have basic tree seed generators before? This seems pretty unintended. For 3.2 resin/s i need 18 seed generators...thats a LOT of walking

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domis86 commented Sep 1, 2022

you should be able to produce temparate/swamp/desert trees with some other recipes

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domis86 commented Sep 1, 2022

But i agree with you that resin/rubber/bioplastic production from trees should be boosted - because it has low efficiency AFAIK compared to other methods of production.

@empZealoth
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you should be able to produce temparate/swamp/desert trees with some other recipes

Yes, which is locked behind tons of science...which needs liquid resin...which needs wood...which needs seed generators lol

I'm 99% sure there was a basic seed generator before, that only could produce basic seeds, i have no idea why it's gone
Bio is full of looped dependencies :/

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domis86 commented Sep 1, 2022

In recent months there were some changes to "alien life plant samples" etc like this: #784 - in general it is harder now.

I think your options can be:

  1. Gather more big trees manually from map
  2. Use "alien farming" way to produce more big trees.
  3. Produce resin using "liquid resin" way (chemicals).
  4. Add mod like https://mods.factorio.com/mod/Bio_Industries to have more options for wood production.

@KiwiHawk
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KiwiHawk commented Sep 4, 2022

I've never seen a basic seed generator. Maybe this was added by another mod?

@LovelySanta
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Maybe we can make a loop using the seed extractor? that could act as a basic seed generator (while consuming 'something)

@empZealoth
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Or just use the basic tree seeds for basic trees and have the special generators actually produce specialised tree saplings from basic seeds instead of specialised seeds?

@KiwiHawk
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Maybe we can make a loop using the seed extractor? that could act as a basic seed generator (while consuming 'something)

Like how the Bob's Greenhouse loop works when Bioprocessing is enabled

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LovelySanta commented Sep 30, 2022

Maybe we can make a loop using the seed extractor? that could act as a basic seed generator (while consuming 'something)

Like how the Bob's Greenhouse loop works when Bioprocessing is enabled

Sounds like im re-pitching my own ideas in that case... great minds (me and old me) think alike? Yes, something like that...

Or just use the basic tree seeds for basic trees and have the special generators actually produce specialised tree saplings from basic seeds instead of specialised seeds?

Never happening... specialized seeds stay specialized, no crossing default -> special

Maybe in exploration alien artifacts could 'influence' something to make the specialized trees faster?

@LovelySanta LovelySanta added Impact: Enhancement Improvements, not pressing Angels Bio Processing bio processing related labels Dec 6, 2022
@LovelySanta LovelySanta changed the title [BUG] Missing basic, non-specialised tree seed generator Missing basic, non-specialised tree seed generator Dec 6, 2022
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